OT:Dukes Kitchen - The Sequel

Post by **Duke** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 7:13 am

Well we are officially in phase two of the kitchen building discussion.

This is so hilarious to me. That I build my kitchen with instructions from people I have never met and that I in most cases dont even know the real name of. lol

Anyway, to my dismay I have done a whole lot of re-wireing in vain. I am an idiot listening to my stupid neighbour about how much power the appliances needed. Since he had bought the same things as I did and already plugged them in I actually thought he knew what he was talking about but I guess it is true. You either have looks or brains and since this guy looks like freaking Rambo without a shirt on I guess we can figure out what line he was in when God handed out the brains (the one opposite of TK

).

Sooooo, I need to get back to the good ol' three phase outlet and still have enough amps to run the rest of the stuff.

Things that has surprised me part 1:
A toaster consumes more power then a microwave

Things that has surprised me part 2:
The ceiling and the floor in a room doesnt necessarily need to be perfectly horizontal. In fact it could differ several centimeters from one side to the other.

Damage report:

Things I have broken while building:
One hammer (broke right off!)
One pair of scissors (oh, I couldnt cut tin with those?)
One screwdriver (I didnt think I needed a crowbar
One lamp (knocked it over while fixing an outlet. The blast scared the bejeezus out of me)
A "thingy" used for expanders you put in plasterwalls. (bended it all out of shape)

I'll keep you updated. I know you follow this with great excitement

Mr_Piggy · Post by **Mr_Piggy** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 9:13 am

if you need anything else broken, let me know

Bjorn · Post by **Bjorn** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 12:37 pm

Duke wrote: Things that has surprised me part 2:
The ceiling and the floor in a room doesnt necessarily need to be perfectly horizontal. In fact it could differ several centimeters from one side to the other.

Oh, yeah! In a house that old don't count on anything to be at right angles to anything else.

Try this. Place a marble on a hardwood floor. Which direction does it roll and how fast does it accelerate? Some of the old farmhouses I was in as a kid felt like I was climbing stairs just to cross the room!

A word of advice. If hanging wallpaper, measure each piece before cutting. As I am sure you have found out, don't assume that the distance from floor to ceiling is a constant in any room.

Post by **Donut** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:35 pm

hehe, As we get back our marvels at Dukes kitchen, I have to once again return to my dorm room, as those are FAR from square as well. You would think that an Engineering school would have picture perfect buildings right? This makes getting into my loft at night even scarier. Well, so good so far.

Donut

Post by **Duke** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 7:51 am

Bjorn wrote:
Oh, yeah! In a house that old don't count on anything to be at right angles to anything else.

In a house that old? This is a rather new house with Europeean standards. My grandparents house is from the 50:ies 1850ies that is. The house across the street has parts of the first floor that dates back to early 1700. 1962 - old? You Americans crack me up

Post by **gm_al** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 9:23 am

LOL - American houses with cardboard walls and such.

Not really built for eternity it seems.

Good ol' Europe.

Underdog · Post by **Underdog** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 10:39 pm

Actually the house I grew up in dates to the 1850's I think. Somewhere in that range and I am pretty sure some of those houses Bjorn was talking about are about the same age if not older. Yes we do have old houses here in the US also.

Goat Herder · Post by **Goat Herder** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 11:01 pm

Oh, yeah! In a house that old don't count on anything to be at right angles to anything else.

I'd like an update report when you start laying floor tiles

...and talking about things being old .... I've got a favourite axe that my father got from his grandfather. 120 years old it is. It's been used so much we've renewed the handle 25 times and the head 6 times. Bet they don't make 'em like that nowadays

Post by **ThinKing** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 11:26 pm

LOL.

So which part of the axe is 120 years old, GH?

TK

Post by **trewqh** » Tue Aug 26, 2003 12:55 pm

We have here a good example of how the mentality of a young person is different from how an older person thinks.

TK thought that renewing meant exchanging some used replacable parts. (that was also my first thought). But what GH actually meant was probably sharpening the head and doing something else with the handle. And that's what he also meant when he wrote: 'they don't make 'em like that nowadays'.

We are the 'throw away generation', TK. They don't make solid things nowadays. They make things that one hasn't got a problem with throwing away and buying a new one. And that's why things aren't made solid. They are cheaper and also make us buy another one.

Today it's not what you own that counts, it's what you buy.

Anyone up for a discussion?

trewqh

Polymorphic · Post by **Polymorphic** » Tue Aug 26, 2003 3:14 pm

You missed the point Trewqh.
If you replace the head of an axe, it is still the same axe.
If you then replace the head, it is still the same axe.

Only if you replace alll of it AT ONCE does it stop being the same axe. (Although I'm sure you could still argue this...)

Lord Fredo · Post by **Lord Fredo** » Tue Aug 26, 2003 3:33 pm

Hmm, yeah this got me curious as well. If you renwed the ax, by getting a new head for it, it really isn't the same az anymore is it. The handle, probably being made of wood is likely to break at some point from frequent usage and changing that would still make it the same ax.
Trewq's comment was interesting though so GH my old friend, please enlighten us. What is the deal exactly:?:

Post by **trewqh** » Tue Aug 26, 2003 9:17 pm

Polymorphic wrote:Only if you replace the whole axe AT ONCE does it stop being the same axe. (Although I'm sure you could still argue this...)

I won't argue. This is one deep ontological statement.

trewqh

Polymorphic · Post by **Polymorphic** » Tue Aug 26, 2003 10:34 pm

Terry Pratchett - The Fifth Elephant.

The axe issue is mentioned, and it's a great book.

Post by **trewqh** » Tue Aug 26, 2003 10:44 pm

I was wondering if what you wrote was serious.

Never got by to read Pratchett. I rarely read grotesque literature.

trewqh

Post by **Duke** » Wed Aug 27, 2003 5:52 am

trewqh wrote:I was wondering if what you wrote was serious.

Never got by to read Pratchett. I rarely read grotesque literature.

trewqh

Grotesque? We are talking about Pratchett here right? Discworld?

This axe discussion was quite amusing however. My view on this is that you may sharpen and otherwise reshape the head and you may totally change the handle. The moment you change the head however it stoppes being the same axe. From my point of view it is the head that IS the axe. The rest is just the handle.

Polymorphic · Post by **Polymorphic** » Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:31 am

W00t!
Another Discworld fan!
Yay!

Lord Fredo · Post by **Lord Fredo** » Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:12 pm

YYYAAAAYYYY!!! DISCWORLD RULES!!!

Post by **Duke** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:35 am

Try passing the exam at the Unseen University.

It is HARD

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/4 ... d/exam.htm

Mr_Piggy · Post by **Mr_Piggy** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:44 am

discworld? I used to play a MUD named discworld.

The Worlds of Kaomaris

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