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Post by Saladin » Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:21 pm

People shouldn't be allowed to simply quit. If they don't want to play any more they should inform the GM who will then simply continue from M1-M2 to M3. That way the other players have the chance to rip him before he quits.
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Post by Dameon » Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:15 pm

I disagree with both Fredo and Sal here. Val never sent in any orders, why is it fair that somebody like Yaro or Fredo should get an extra bonus for RIPping him when he didn't fight them for it? The whole point to the player RIP bonus is you actually outplay another player and earn a reward, not pick up on some extra supplies out of sheer (gasp!) luck.
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Post by korexus » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:25 pm

They'll still get the supplies though, Val hasn't been removed from the map, just listed as quit. The only difference this makes that I can see is that anyone taking Val's home this turn won't get any rating. Whether they should or not is another matter of course.


Also, consider this, anyone starting near Validon will have had no emails or replies from him, normally this means that he would be treated as a threat, which would then have influenced other diplomacy. If Yaro or Fredo have been forced to give up some neutrals in order to secure peace with another player allowing them to concentrate on Val, shouldn't they get something in return?



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Post by Allister Fiend » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:52 pm

Lord Fredo wrote:Ok ... that's kind of what I figured but it's still kind of a bummer since then noone got the chance to finish him off properly.
Don't worry Fredo.......After I am done with VO, I will head that way. :wink:

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Post by Lord Fredo » Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:17 pm

:) Thanks Allister.

Actually ... I wasn't so much worried about getting any bonuses as much as that you could easily get 5 QUITs in a game that way taking away VPs. I guess then following the logic stated above that this wouldn't be more than fair then. Oh well, just a thought.

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Post by Dameon » Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:33 pm

Korexus, Validon was active in diplomacy early on (at least with me). I had a NAP with him, and as you suggest let a few neutrals lie for that purpose. Now Fredo or Yaro is welcome to take them as I obviously am busy with AF; I won't say otherwise. But if Val wouldn't have NAPd with VO at all we'd likely have taken AF's offer for NAP, y'know? So while you have a point, it can easliy backfire as well.

In any case, when I run games a player quitting gets manually set to neutral control by me, which means no bonus for the winners. How other GMs handle it is their perogative, but I see no reason to award random bonuses to players just due to sheer luck.

And don't worry, Fredo. Allister at least will get RIPped. 8)
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Post by Duke » Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:55 am

Oh no, you've started the luck debate again. :roll:
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Post by Dameon » Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:05 pm

No I haven't, everybody knows better than to debate me on it by now. 8)
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Post by Duke » Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:16 pm

Good. This was one step from going into US vs The world
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Post by Allister Fiend » Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:54 pm

Dameon wrote: Now Fredo or Yaro is welcome to take them as I obviously am busy with AF.
Once Allister defeats me and Gaz which obviously will happen, then it will be a different story.


And don't worry, Fredo. Allister at least will get the RIP bonus on me and maybe on Gaz if Gaz doesn't quit first. 8)

I knew you would see it my way. :lol:
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Post by Dameon » Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:52 pm

U-S-A! U-S-A! :D
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Post by Undertaker » Sun Oct 02, 2005 11:30 pm

Turn 3 and things are heating up.
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Post by Dameon » Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:10 am

You can't run from us forever, Allister, we will catch up to you sooner or later. Probably once the OOP is nice to us again. 8)
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Post by Allister Fiend » Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:56 pm

Dameon wrote:I better NAP with Allister now before I get my ass kicked again.

That's right, but I see no point in NAPing now since you attacked me.
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Hi

Post by Yarosund » Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:24 pm

A nice bit of chat going on.

While having a look round this, I thought it might be nice to say 'Hi'.

so, Hi.

cheers

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Post by Undertaker » Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:40 am

Turn 4, the heat is on. :pure evil:
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Post by Allister Fiend » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:17 pm

Dameon wrote:You can't run from us forever, Allister, we will catch up to you sooner or later. Probably once the OOP is nice to us again. 8)
So now what is your excuse?


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Post by Shakira » Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:16 am

GM Taker

can you send me my turn report for turn 4 again. Text version if possible.

Hotmail seems to have problems with the standard file.

Thank you.

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Post by Undertaker » Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:20 pm

Shakira wrote:GM Taker

can you send me my turn report for turn 4 again. Text version if possible.

Hotmail seems to have problems with the standard file.

Thank you.
Done.
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Post by Shakira » Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:39 am

Sorry GM Taker, but it still not showing in my hotmail account.

I think, in the pasit has worked when you just send the text and not an attachment.

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