POP STEAL & IMMOVABLE WORKERS

Vortan · Post by **Vortan** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:55 pm

Two minor issues I have noticed occassionally in the few games I have played.

1* The Steal Pop spy option sometimes reports a success but doesnt actually give you the stolen pop while other times it does.

2* In F.I.T.S and more recently in my v Dragonette I seem to have Workers that, despite giving them move orders just fail to move reporting that I have none to move. They then work happily next turn.

Neither issue is life threatening (the way I lose) but thought you may want to know.

Post by **korexus** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:16 pm

The most likely case with the spies is that there is no population to steal. I can add a comment to the script in that case.

Can you point me at specific game, turn and player numbers so I can check the Turn reports? (Do it by PM if you don't want players to know...)

Chris.

Vortan · Post by **Vortan** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:56 pm

PM on spies is yours.

The workers thing seems occassional and across the board.

I have several groups in my current Duel Lite that just will not budge.

Post by **korexus** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:52 pm

I've found the spy problem.
A typo meant that if there was less POP in the province than you were able to steal, you got none. On the bright side this means that when it happened, you didn't miss out much.

I can't see a problem in the movement script. If you can point me to a specific turn report I have a much better chance of working out where the bug could be...

Chris.

Vortan · Post by **Vortan** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:23 pm

Okay kor definate occurances on 2 move orders in Turn 3 for player 2 in currently running duel-lite v Dragonette.

Orders [39][41][2][50] and [42][41][2][50]

both resulted, as you will see, it acknowledges how many there are 24 & 12 respectively but then says I can move 0. Hope this helps.

Post by **korexus** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:27 pm

The maximum number of workers you can fit in a province is 125. Province 41 was already full, so the other workers were turned back at the border...

Vortan · Post by **Vortan** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:38 pm

Aha. And where pray tell, in the published rules does it tell us this limit and are there any others I need to know ie POP.

Post by **korexus** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:41 pm

From the manual linked in the Lobby:

4> The Beginning
You start in a single, randomly selected province. The province you are given will not be adjacent to a province of another player, so everyone gets a chance to build up in the first round. The provinces differ in the following aspects :
ID# - The number of the province
NAME - Its name
#P - Which player rules it (1-10, 0=neutral)
POP - The population (0-999)
WOK - The workers (0-125 !)
ARM - The armies (0-999)
LEV - The level of the armies (1.000-9.999)
DEF - The defense level (0.0-9.9)
MIS - The stocked missiles (0-99)
SPY - The spies (0-99)

Vortan · Post by **Vortan** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:51 pm

OH... that link ... I printed the not printer friendly rules that are like 1mm high so I guess that why I missed it.

Post by **korexus** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:02 pm

Hmm, there are actually some differences between the two sets of rules. (No prizes for guessing where this is going.)

We should be consistent, I'm sure I delegated this job in the past, but nothing seems to have happened.

I wrote the Lobby linked version, Egbert wrote the one linked in the left hand menu. People objected to the style of mine and, as you've discovered, Egbert left some things out because they seemed either too obvious or too trivial to him.

What we need is someone to do a combined version of the rules. Someone who's new enough to WoK to notice when something has been overlooked. Someone who's got enough time to do really thorough job and track down any details which may be missing from both manuals. Someone with a literary bent so that what could be a dull manual will still be interesting to read.

...

Post by **korexus** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:03 pm

...

I nominate Vortan.

korexus.

Vortan · Post by **Vortan** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:16 pm

I tell you what, you silver-tongued devil I will print the two, do some work and email it to you .. hows that.

What WP files can you accept Works, Wordpad (never used it) and dont say Adobe cos I only have the reader.

Saladin · Post by **Saladin** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:24 pm

Erm... too be honest i was already working on that. I'm also adding a lot of examples (with pretty pictures) so it should be a lot more newbie friendly.

Vortan · Post by **Vortan** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:27 pm

PHEW ... but hey look I was willing ... Keep up the good work Saladin!

Post by **korexus** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:31 pm

Ah, so I did delegate it already. That's ok then.

Thanks, Saladin. I'm glad someone round here knows what's going on!

korexus.

Vortan · Post by **Vortan** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:38 pm

Well kor since you are obviously now bored and at a loose end how about adding a RED title next to Administrator and Moderator called Nuisance then I can have a title of my own.

Post by **korexus** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:57 am

Oh, I have plenty to do. Don't worry.

I'm currently trying to get my head round the new VP tracking idea, then I've got to go back to that score calculation thread. Then I've got WoK V online to do with Gaz...

Plenty to do.

Chris.

Vortan · Post by **Vortan** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:25 am

Well don't worry - I'll see what else I can find

Post by **korexus** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:43 am

Chat room. There's loads. Really.

By the way, did you know that you're now above 3 posts/day average. That's probably the highest in WoK...

Chris.