Life without Al?
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Life without Al?
Some of you may have noticed that yesterday the WoK site went down for a few hours. Not just server problems, but properly down, parked domain not here any more stuff...
This was because we finally ran out of money. Since Al left I thought I was getting all the relevant information, but it turns out not.
Our anual costs are $119 of which, $60 is paid for from my sub domain. If anyone would like to donate, either by giving me money or buy renting their own subdomain (great value at $5 per month) please let me know!
Thanks,
Chris.
This was because we finally ran out of money. Since Al left I thought I was getting all the relevant information, but it turns out not.
Our anual costs are $119 of which, $60 is paid for from my sub domain. If anyone would like to donate, either by giving me money or buy renting their own subdomain (great value at $5 per month) please let me know!
Thanks,
Chris.
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From you Duke, I think I'd rather have the money...
I've just finished writing my tons of reports and now I'll go to bed. Al replied when I emailed the other address, apparently people can send money directly to my paypal account (christopher.fitzsimons@gmail.com) with a bit of luck I can update the links. Tomorrow.
Chris.
I've just finished writing my tons of reports and now I'll go to bed. Al replied when I emailed the other address, apparently people can send money directly to my paypal account (christopher.fitzsimons@gmail.com) with a bit of luck I can update the links. Tomorrow.
Chris.
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I only just discovered this thread. We are that close to oblivion, huh?
That would be a pity.
It's clearly not fair on Kor to fund half the annual and be stuck with the dilemma of funding the other half or letting it die ... especially after all the effort he put in to make more games easier to run; ironic, isn't it?
But just one person also saving it would be bad money after good. So I'll chip in $20 if two others will (Duke, Egbert?). To give Kor a breathing space.
I reckon we have a 60% chance of saving it and getting it going again if we do the right things. On and off, I've been going through about 18 of 24 steps to make it work. 13 done. But it still ain't right yet for max conversion of visitors, IMHO, and we really should optimise it BEFORE we create a wave of interesteds to check us out. If we blow them, we've lost the most attractable folk, never to be attracted again. I STILL say we gotta get the site right before we push for people to check us out.
Eg., the "How to join" button (thanks Saladin) just crazily sends people to the Explanation of the Game that I wrote. Madness. 4 pages before you get to a How to Join section, which Saladin edited and added to so that it looks like 7 Herculean tasks before you can join ...
Eg., (apologies) the Rules. Not at all easy to find if you just bump into the site; and they start off talking about VP's and changes from past rules, as if the main reader is someone who knew the old rules and is being told of changes to them. Not written for a newbie. I've written up lots of rules; these CAN be regarded as clear enough if you are brilliant and dedicated; they sure aren't written to be clear to non-brilliant newbies. I wouldn't send my club-members there with those rules as written/edited.
So 8 steps still to take, one is "How to Join" (just press on it and wonder whether a random newbie would know how to join!), and another is to rewrite the rulles from the perspective of someone who didn't know the OLD rules, and has never heard of these "VPs".
That would be a pity.
It's clearly not fair on Kor to fund half the annual and be stuck with the dilemma of funding the other half or letting it die ... especially after all the effort he put in to make more games easier to run; ironic, isn't it?
But just one person also saving it would be bad money after good. So I'll chip in $20 if two others will (Duke, Egbert?). To give Kor a breathing space.
I reckon we have a 60% chance of saving it and getting it going again if we do the right things. On and off, I've been going through about 18 of 24 steps to make it work. 13 done. But it still ain't right yet for max conversion of visitors, IMHO, and we really should optimise it BEFORE we create a wave of interesteds to check us out. If we blow them, we've lost the most attractable folk, never to be attracted again. I STILL say we gotta get the site right before we push for people to check us out.
Eg., the "How to join" button (thanks Saladin) just crazily sends people to the Explanation of the Game that I wrote. Madness. 4 pages before you get to a How to Join section, which Saladin edited and added to so that it looks like 7 Herculean tasks before you can join ...
Eg., (apologies) the Rules. Not at all easy to find if you just bump into the site; and they start off talking about VP's and changes from past rules, as if the main reader is someone who knew the old rules and is being told of changes to them. Not written for a newbie. I've written up lots of rules; these CAN be regarded as clear enough if you are brilliant and dedicated; they sure aren't written to be clear to non-brilliant newbies. I wouldn't send my club-members there with those rules as written/edited.
So 8 steps still to take, one is "How to Join" (just press on it and wonder whether a random newbie would know how to join!), and another is to rewrite the rulles from the perspective of someone who didn't know the OLD rules, and has never heard of these "VPs".
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"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs"......... it's probably just that you're the last person to appreciate the enormity of the catastrophe about to
"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs"......... it's probably just that you're the last person to appreciate the enormity of the catastrophe about to
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I think the paypal llinks now go to me, almost certainly something will go wrong if you try to use them, but we shall see.
As for the other things:
Han - Did you get my reply about the how to join link. If we're going for a short set of instructions, it might as well be "Choose a name, click on sign up, head to the forums to say hello." That way, no one has to wait for email replies.
New visitors can be redirected to a sub menu, "How to Join, What is WoK? and Rules.
If anyone feels inspired, feel free to improve the documents we have lying around, I'll try and get them uploaded.
I'll see what I can do now, but no promises!
Chris.
As for the other things:
Han - Did you get my reply about the how to join link. If we're going for a short set of instructions, it might as well be "Choose a name, click on sign up, head to the forums to say hello." That way, no one has to wait for email replies.
New visitors can be redirected to a sub menu, "How to Join, What is WoK? and Rules.
If anyone feels inspired, feel free to improve the documents we have lying around, I'll try and get them uploaded.
I'll see what I can do now, but no promises!
Chris.
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Ok, I've tried to tidy up the new visitor stuff, feedback still very welcome on that although I didn't do very yet. I also made a new topic in the command bunker with Han in charge for new and returning players to post and say hi. (As a side note, if any of the moderators can rmind me how to make topics sticky I'd be grateful. I'm very dense today...)
So the next jobs are to revise documents I think. Make everything user friendly. Any volunteers?
Chris.
So the next jobs are to revise documents I think. Make everything user friendly. Any volunteers?
Chris.
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Once my ever-so slow yahoo email address receives the ever-so slow PayPal (can't remember my password) e-mail (breath)...
I'll send 50 quid, not sure what that works out in $$...
Hopefully this game'll continue as it's better than most online games about - and takes a smidge of the time - rl here I come...
I'll send 50 quid, not sure what that works out in $$...
Hopefully this game'll continue as it's better than most online games about - and takes a smidge of the time - rl here I come...
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£50 is just less than $100, so even after Paypal takes it's usual 10% that would leave kaomaris with some money in the bank against upcoming costs (I know we'll have to pay for the domain name again at some point, and there's probably other things that I haven't thought of...) It's a very generous offer, Hyrll, and I'm not trying to talk you out of it, but with other people willing to contribute too, it needen't be quite so much.
Alternatively, I could set the money against a year and a half's worth of space with a kaomaris sub domain so that you're getting something for the money. Or, if anyone can think of a suggestion for what to do with extra cash I'm happy to spend it!
Chris. (looking up plane tickets to Hawaii.... Now.)
Alternatively, I could set the money against a year and a half's worth of space with a kaomaris sub domain so that you're getting something for the money. Or, if anyone can think of a suggestion for what to do with extra cash I'm happy to spend it!
Chris. (looking up plane tickets to Hawaii.... Now.)
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Well, I'd hate to do anything to ruin the splendour of Hryllantre's generosity, by equalling it .... and will avoid coming so close as to render his munificence only mildly egregious, by nearly-equalling it.
So, in order to leave Hryll's gesture the undisputed wow, I'll throw in a paltry £30.
Kor, tell me exactly how to pay it to you (so that I can, and so that others have no excuse). OK, I have an ancient PayPal account ... then what?
Like Hryll, I've played elsewhere, and nothing has the same mix as WOK. We have plans for a relaunch, recruiting new players. I think Hryll just put himself on the team to do it, making 3 of us! OK, Hryll?
Han
So, in order to leave Hryll's gesture the undisputed wow, I'll throw in a paltry £30.
Kor, tell me exactly how to pay it to you (so that I can, and so that others have no excuse). OK, I have an ancient PayPal account ... then what?
Like Hryll, I've played elsewhere, and nothing has the same mix as WOK. We have plans for a relaunch, recruiting new players. I think Hryll just put himself on the team to do it, making 3 of us! OK, Hryll?
Han
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"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs"......... it's probably just that you're the last person to appreciate the enormity of the catastrophe about to
"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs"......... it's probably just that you're the last person to appreciate the enormity of the catastrophe about to
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The link in the menu box (top left) called donations and merchandise allows you to give us money, buy a WoK T-Shirt or rent a sub domain. Clicking on it should allow you to send money to the WoK site (all via paypal, with fairly helpful instructions). Otherwise, personal cheques are always acceptable, just don't send cash through the post...
Chris.
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Well, I can't let Duke's jibe be the latest live post on the site for any more days. So I'd better post here then post anything on another thread!
Tcha! Duke and I keep ribbing each other, but it's teasing, right, not a flamer.
OK, Dukie: No need to keep apologising for being Swedish ("I'm from Sweden here"). Hey, somebody has to be, it's not your fault.
BTW, in my experience, the average Dane/Norwegian/Swede speaks "better" English than the average Englishman. Hey, Duke, go for that average, you can do it!
Yep, I wrote:
Duke, think of it as just intermittent verbal pyrotechnics, merely sporadic lexicological calisthenics. Does that help?
Duke, it's hard to know just how FAR to dumb down for you ... when I take a guess at it I get vertigo...
Maybe I should post in Swedish just for you ...men jeg taler dansk god, men jeg taler ikke svensk. Forvil.
Tcha! Duke and I keep ribbing each other, but it's teasing, right, not a flamer.
OK, Dukie: No need to keep apologising for being Swedish ("I'm from Sweden here"). Hey, somebody has to be, it's not your fault.
BTW, in my experience, the average Dane/Norwegian/Swede speaks "better" English than the average Englishman. Hey, Duke, go for that average, you can do it!
Yep, I wrote:
The whole paragraph was tongue-in-cheek (D, = joking).Hannibal wrote:Well, I'd hate to do anything to ruin the splendour of Hryllantre's generosity, by equalling it .... and will avoid coming so close as to render his munificence only mildly egregious, by nearly-equalling it.
Duke, think of it as just intermittent verbal pyrotechnics, merely sporadic lexicological calisthenics. Does that help?
Duke, it's hard to know just how FAR to dumb down for you ... when I take a guess at it I get vertigo...
Maybe I should post in Swedish just for you ...men jeg taler dansk god, men jeg taler ikke svensk. Forvil.
There are two ways to write: Short-hand, and Long-Han'ed. ~ Han
"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs"......... it's probably just that you're the last person to appreciate the enormity of the catastrophe about to
"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs"......... it's probably just that you're the last person to appreciate the enormity of the catastrophe about to