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Talk about the two player Standard WoK variant

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Post by Lardmaster » Wed May 30, 2007 10:05 pm

Round one to me I think Tigress............. :behead:
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Post by Tigress » Thu May 31, 2007 1:26 pm

it's not over yet! :evil:

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Post by Lardmaster » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:05 pm

I am offering the chance for you to graciously retire Tigress. Will you concede or do we need to carry on?
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Post by Vortan » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:34 pm

GO Lardmaster ... Need a Taxidermist?
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Post by Hannibal » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:27 pm

Hiya. I haven't looked at the game in question, but I see stuff about conceding .....

As the person who inflicted Duels on you all, can I stress a point? That point is that it's OK to concede once you know you're beat; no need to play it out.

Y'see, Duels, both Full and Lite, take a lot of effort each turn. So it takes more effort just to "play it out". In standard 10-player WOK games, you might be tempted to play on to the death, no problem, it shows you stay with it. But in Duels, it can be a painful waste of your time and of your opponent's time, simply because it takes more time and effort to put in Duel orders each turn.

So, I repeat: Everybody should feel free, in Duels, to throw the towel in, concede, start a new game for revenge. There should be no culture of heroically fighting on to the end - because it costs both sides a lot more time than just throwing in orders in a standard 10-player game.

Hey, I'm trying to make Duels fun while they are up for grabs, and not a pain to play out once they're lost. You can always start a new one .... get your revenge.

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PS: This is not a comment on THIS game - I haven't looked at it. Just a comment in general for the future of Duels.
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Post by korexus » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:41 pm

That's quitters' talk, fight on to Death or Glory!
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Seriously though, no Duel yet has gone the distance, so I don't think you need to worry about players feeling obliged to carry on...



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Post by Saladin » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:48 pm

Hehe...just watch Vortan and Sal's duel...over 15 minutes...say nighty night Vortan! :twisted:
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Post by Vortan » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:12 pm

Oy! I thought both a players were NAPped until AFTER turn 6 NOT until turn 6. VortanA was set to valiantly fight his way out and be rescued by C. I really will have to read those rules more carefully.

But, all that said well played. It could have been over a lot faster though ie 10am if my life hadn't interfered. Just watch out for NEXT time.
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Post by Hannibal » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:51 pm

Vortan wrote:Oy! I thought both a players were NAPped until AFTER turn 6 NOT until turn 6. VortanA was set to valiantly fight his way out and be rescued by C. I really will have to read those rules more carefully.

But, all that said well played. It could have been over a lot faster though ie 10am if my life hadn't interfered. Just watch out for NEXT time.
Sorry, it definitely says (twice!) that A&A are napped until START of T6, ie only until start of T6. Yep, it tends to come down to who misread more rules than the other guy (or, when it's me v Kor, who makes fewer order-input mistakes - our Duel was a humdinger of outdoing each other in mistakes!).

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Post by Vortan » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:54 pm

Its a good job no one is perfect then cos we'd not stand a chance. Mistake duly noted it WILL NOT happen again.
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Post by Saladin » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:02 pm

Though it didn't really matter for you, otherwise i would have used my green army group to rip them...same outcome. :)
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Post by Vortan » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:06 pm

Oh look Sal :oops: I am trying to find some scrap of viable excuse here. :lol:
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Post by Vortan » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:46 pm

Now Vortan raises the banner of The Circle Of Nine and cries out Lord korexus, Lord Brykovian, Lord Egbert come forth.

With Lord Saladin and Lady Dragonette already having fallen at my feet in the Duel-Lite I feel it only right and proper that I give you the chance to fight for their honour.

What say you.
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Post by Hannibal » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:56 pm

Uh-oh, looks like he's getting over-confident. We might have to send Vulkingess Tigress against him ... AGAIN ...
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Post by Brykovian » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:59 pm

Vortan wrote:Now Vortan raises the banner of The Circle Of Nine and cries out Lord korexus, Lord Brykovian, Lord Egbert come forth.

blah-blah-blahbity-blah ... and blah
Let trewqh finished beating me in the Duel we're in ... and then I'll see you in one of those lightweight games where you kill robots for fun. :P

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Post by Vortan » Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:18 pm

You are on. Just don't make me wait too long Scholar boy. :P

Glad to see one of you had the courage. :lol:

Just remember - Armies are allowed to be male soldiers only :!:
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Post by Hannibal » Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:38 pm

Brykovian wrote: ... and then I'll see you in one of those lightweight games where you kill robots for fun. :P

-Bryk
The trick in the lightweight game is to kill robots for fun ...but just SLIGHTLY faster than the other guy does! ... just trying to help?

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Post by Brykovian » Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:51 pm

Vortan wrote:Armies are allowed to be male soldiers only :!:
Now what am I supposed to do with my contingent of deadly she-ninjas? :shock:

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Post by Vortan » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:02 pm

Aarrrgh!!!!!.................................. :idea:


Leave them at home!
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Post by Lardmaster » Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:04 pm

Fair play to Tigress for not falling for my bully boy tactics when the game was still in doubt. She has now conceded and I hope learned a new trick or too from an old dog :D

Been so long since I've won a game I'd forgotten what it was like!!!!!
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