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Post by trewqh » Thu Jul 31, 2003 12:00 pm

Strider wrote:We want a cage match!! Dance for us! DANCE!!! :P
Well, let's get back to...:

Me with korexus?! He wouldn't last 2 rounds with me. Just look at Al's 17. :devilish:

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Post by trewqh » Thu Jul 31, 2003 12:14 pm

gm_al wrote:You could have asked for a confirmation if I got your orders, this would have been good it seems. Ill do that from now on for non-AOF sent orders.
Could I propose updating the game's page with this info? I know that it is easier for me to update the page than send out e-mails after receiving each non-AOF sender orders. So how about that?

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Post by gm_al » Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:16 pm

It is way easier to cick on 'Reply' and send a confirmation mail imho.

I do occasionally update the Group page between Turns, but not that often. Id rather look to see the KaoBase be in line. *hint, hint to other GMs*

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Post by Polymorphic » Thu Jul 31, 2003 5:39 pm

trewqh wrote:I didn't bring it up, I didn't expect you to bring this up, I don't want to talk about this so I won't comment that. :P
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Post by trewqh » Thu Jul 31, 2003 8:02 pm

Polymorphic wrote:
trewqh wrote:I didn't bring it up, I didn't expect you to bring this up, I don't want to talk about this so I won't comment that. :P
"Witness me saying nothing, absolutely nothing, I'm not saying anything am I?"
Hmm... This could start a form/content discussion. But do we want this?....


... in this thread. :winkwink:

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Post by trewqh » Sat Aug 09, 2003 9:45 am

Disciples of WOK defenitely need a rules page! :evil:

Griffon and Moridin! :sniper:

I didn't expect such a behaviour from players who learned from Massielita and Dark Monk! :bomb:

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Post by Saladin » Sat Aug 09, 2003 10:13 am

Well what did they do then? :)
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Post by Moridin » Sat Aug 09, 2003 4:47 pm

Attack someone who no longer had a NAP with us? :stooges:
He never extended it with us, I have the letter that clearly states when it was over if you want me to forward it to you Trewqh.
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Post by korexus » Sat Aug 09, 2003 5:17 pm

:popcorn:

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Post by trewqh » Sat Aug 09, 2003 7:50 pm

Moridin wrote:Attack someone who no longer had a NAP with us? :stooges:
He never extended it with us, I have the letter that clearly states when it was over if you want me to forward it to you Trewqh.
Please, do.

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Post by griffon » Sat Aug 09, 2003 9:31 pm

trewqh wrote:Disciples of WOK defenitely need a rules page! :evil:

Griffon and Moridin! :sniper:

I didn't expect such a behaviour from players who learned from Massielita and Dark Monk! :bomb:

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Firstly, the business is between Donut and us. I am sure he can speak for himself. I don't want to go into details, but our nap expired. So it was open season. It is not our fault he is asleep. :? :?

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Post by Donut » Sun Aug 10, 2003 12:00 am

You're right, it is between you two and me. Heres the way I see it; You both spied me last turn. That I am almost certain of since both Warped and Polymorphic e-mailed me and assured me that they did not spy me. As neither of them would have any gain from spying me, I believe them. THIS is a "Breach of Contract" so to say. I admit that the attacks were in correspondence to our NAP as it ended AFTER last turn. I made a costly mistake in missing the turn. While it hurt me, I am far from out of the game; this I assure you. :x

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Post by griffon » Mon Aug 11, 2003 10:47 am

Donut wrote: THIS is a "Breach of Contract" so to say. I admit that the attacks were in correspondence to our NAP as it ended AFTER last turn. I made a costly mistake in missing the turn. While it hurt me, I am far from out of the game; this I assure you. :x

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I am very sorry if that was the way you understood the situation. I was under the impression :oops: it ended the beginning of the turn.
We were not breaking any agreements or contracts.
But I think there is a little bit of sour grapes involved on your part. :wink:
Again, I do apologise. I will make clearer naps in future.

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Post by Saladin » Mon Aug 11, 2003 1:29 pm

Best thing to do is add a line saying, 'hostilities can begin on turn xx' that way there can't be any misunderstandings. :)
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Post by Donut » Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:45 pm

This is the e-mail from YOU, to me:
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Hi there, I am not sure about the terms of our (me and
Griffon) nap with you.
See if you agree with this:
5 turns started turn 2 ending turn 6? From turn 7 the
nap expires, unless we extend it of course.
Let me know,
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Now to me that means that the NAP ran Through 6?!?

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Post by Warped Angel » Tue Aug 12, 2003 7:53 am

"sniff sniff" you smell that? is something burning? OH YEAH BABY that would be Griffon LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :flamer: I'm sorry but I have to say something about trewqhs avatar....uh... Well maybe I shouldnt say it.
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Post by trewqh » Tue Aug 12, 2003 4:32 pm

Warped Angel wrote:"sniff sniff" you smell that? is something burning? OH YEAH BABY that would be Griffon LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :flamer: I'm sorry but I have to say something about trewqhs avatar....uh... Well maybe I shouldnt say it.
Since my avatar is so inpiring then I would feel very bad if you suppressed your need to express yourself after being influenced by my image. :P

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Post by Donut » Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:00 pm

I know I'm a newcomer to the game but from reading other posts it seems that diplomacy is a thing that many find very important to maintain a good reputation in. But... Judging my Griffon and Moridin's silence on the matter at hand, I don't get that feeling from them. It seems to me that they don't find their breaking of our NAP to be important enough to respond to my arguments. As I stated before in the Quoted e-mail, the NAP did not have "Questionable Terms" as Griffon stated that he misinterpreted the turn that it ended on.

I personally feel that the NAP we had between us had very concrete terms. I also feel that there premature spying should be compensated for. The provinces that were spied out were the first ones to be taken by Griffon. He knew enough to send 1 army into an undefended province with quite a few workers.

I'll leave it up to you 2 to come up with something; e-mail me when you have an answer. Until then, I don't think that I will be making any NAP's with either of you, or the DoW as I feel that they are poorly represented on this matter. :?


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Post by griffon » Sat Aug 16, 2003 11:18 am

Donut wrote:I know I'm a newcomer to the game but from reading other posts it seems that diplomacy is a thing that many find very important to maintain a good reputation in. But... Judging my Griffon and Moridin's silence on the matter at hand, I don't get that feeling from them. It seems to me that they don't find their breaking of our NAP to be important enough to respond to my arguments. As I stated before in the Quoted e-mail, the NAP did not have "Questionable Terms" as Griffon stated that he misinterpreted the turn that it ended on.

I personally feel that the NAP we had between us had very concrete terms. I also feel that there premature spying should be compensated for. The provinces that were spied out were the first ones to be taken by Griffon. He knew enough to send 1 army into an undefended province with quite a few workers.

I'll leave it up to you 2 to come up with something; e-mail me when you have an answer. Until then, I don't think that I will be making any NAP's with either of you, or the DoW as I feel that they are poorly represented on this matter. :?



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Like I allready said, I'm sorry about the misunderstanding. I don't keep records of all the emails I send. The one you quoted is mine. So it is my mistake to do the spying. But that was all I did. I did not attack you beforehand.
As for compensation; the fact that you missed the turn sort of cancelled that out.
I also messed up my attack orders this turn, my armies would have been in nr 25 now.

Lastly, this is all a lot of noise about a small matter.

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Post by trewqh » Sat Aug 16, 2003 12:28 pm

A small matter you say?

So how about I spy on you one turn before our NAP ends? You OK with that? :evil:

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