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Stephen Group#4 Over

Post by Yarosund » Sun May 18, 2003 11:40 am

This game has now come to an end.

A large number of Quitters has meant that only 1 VP can be awarded.
I would like to have made this 2 VP's, as only 2 of the Quitters were real quitters, the others had all their ARM killed, and quit while they still had some empty prov.

Anyway, the choice from the Thugs is to give 1 VP to Lardmaster.

Well done LM.

Also worth a mention is Butcher, who played a good game, but without an ally could not hope to hold off the 2 Thuggie players.

Thanks to all for playing.

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Post by Bjorn » Sun May 18, 2003 2:42 pm

All GMs are reminded that if person playing in one of your games is in a hopeless situation, then they should be asked if they wish to be considered as having sent in no orders for all remaining turns, rather than being listed as a quitter. There are players who actually quit for a variety of reasons, but I see Duke, Aussie Gaz and Grave Maker started this game and it is unusual for them to actually quit a game.
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Post by trewqh » Sun May 18, 2003 7:04 pm

Yeah! It feels kind of strange to be the only one ripped there :?

But if it wasn't for Cronus, who never sent any orders, the Thuggs would have a much harder life in this group and Grave Maker can confirm that.

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Post by Yarosund » Sun May 18, 2003 8:58 pm

It might be that I wrongly interpreted players intentions when they left the game.

AG, GM, Duke may not have intended for me to count them as quit.
I did not realise that this would have an effect on the awarding of VP's.
If these players were able to confirm that they had not Quit the game, it might be possible for Tristao to gain the VP that he deserves.

I should have payed attention to these details at the time, but did not anticipate this problem.

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Post by Calidus » Mon May 19, 2003 3:03 am

Stephen,

I usually tell the GM to carry me as sending in zero orders once I have reached a point where I have nothing but empty provinces left. (It happens a lot)

Also, as a GM, I only count a player as quit if they go M-3 with an army left. If they have nothing left, I automatically carry them as having 0 orders. Makes it less confusing for me.

(just my cent and a half)

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Post by Aussie Gaz » Mon May 19, 2003 6:13 am

As I have said to GM Stephen.

I had 1 or 2 completely empty provinces so could not put in any meaningful orders.

That being said if the other players let multiple players go M-3 before they rip them then it is their own fault if there is only 1 VP.

Going M-3 is a tactic (not a really good one but if you are out of the game what does it matter to you?).

I am not sure if Stephen automatically changed my to quit but I thought he just agreed to let me fade away to M-3.


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Post by Yarosund » Mon May 19, 2003 7:36 am

Looks like the error for the remaining players was not RIP'ing the defeated players.
The game lasted more than 12 turns after various players went inactive, so these all went M-3.
That answers my question and means that there will only be the 1 VP.
Thanks to every one who contacted me, to help me out over this problem.

Cheers

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Post by Butcher » Wed May 21, 2003 3:35 pm

Error, or strategy????

Also Thank you for the game Stephen, it was a lot of fun.

- GM Tyler

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