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The Kraken · Post by **The Kraken** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 6:35 pm

I would like to watch the 5 vs 5 game.

When it starts?

The Kraken

Funtastick · Post by **Funtastick** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 8:40 pm

tonight

Saladin · Post by **Saladin** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 12:00 am

Well seeing that the vets (read Eg and Saladin) had an absolutely crappy starting position and OoP i'd say it's 1-0 to the vets after the first round.

Zed got put in his place by Egbert...Mullog's got hit very hard (64% eff after round one

) and Ja'Ded failed to take advantage from the lucky OoP so that leaves Saladin at full strength.

With Raw, Trewqh and Mylantis all taking 3 neutrals the vets are looking strong!

Let's see what happens this next round!

Validon · Post by **Validon** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 3:13 pm

I'll give it to you. But that's why your the vets here. You have the experience and knowledge to know what is the best move in certain circumstances. I for one have already picked up some new knowledge that I have filed away for future games.
It's forced down a newbies throat to take three neutrals on thier first turn but, as proven in this game, if you have bad postitioning in the beginning game it may be to your advantage to just take one, save your armies and pile up for next turn.
I agree, 1-0 vets. But it's not over yet. One battle down more to follow.

Saladin · Post by **Saladin** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 4:12 pm

Well you can only convert 144 pop on turn one in to arms so two provinces will normally give you those pop...so two additional provinces is nice...but not 100% necessary to still be able to kick some buttocks.

Mullog · Post by **Mullog** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 7:56 pm

Saladin wrote:...Mullog's got hit very hard (64% eff after round one )...

Now, where did you get that from? You are not the only ones with spies you know. And our total score is higher than yours!

But with that said, I'm not feeling so confident about the next few turns....

JaDed · Post by **JaDed** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 6:17 am

Saladin said:

Ja'Ded failed to take advantage from the lucky OoP so that leaves Saladin at full strength.

The fact of the matter is that I made shure that you did not go down if you had you would have been hit. If I had tried to take 49 after taking a neutral I might have shared the same fate as Zed. I did not make a mastake.

Underdog · Post by **Underdog** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 11:21 pm

Saladin wrote:Well you can only convert 144 pop on turn one in to arms so two provinces will normally give you those pop...so two additional provinces is nice...but not 100% necessary to still be able to kick some buttocks.

Sal, you are mathmatically correct but the trick is to have those 144 in the right provinces to begin with. you have to make your transformations before you can move pop around so you don't have the chance to set them up beforehand and I would be willing to guess that you cannot actually make 36 new armies on turn 1 by only taking 1 province unless your starting province had enough pop for 2 full conversions to begin with.
This is possible with some maps in certtain provinces but it isn't a given. That said, I haven't played on that map, and have no idea what the starting pop levels are. Since it was an Ingrid map, I believe, I think she was pretty forgiving with the pop values for the most part.

Try doing that on the 2 origional maps when you start in one of those provinces that only have 49 pop to start the game.

Mullog · Post by **Mullog** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 7:44 pm

ARGH!
That was mean!

Underdog · Post by **Underdog** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 8:00 pm

After a little research I have found that the most stingy maps are Goatherders maps. I actually found a province or 2 in his maps that start with 40 pop.
Now that is being stingy,

Saladin · Post by **Saladin** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 10:22 pm

Sorry Mullog, but it didn't take me long to convince the other players that you were our most feared opponent, being TKG and all...so you had to go first.

Saladin · Post by **Saladin** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 10:35 pm

Boy Ja'Ded:

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#ID     NAME     POP   WOK  AIM  ARM LEVEL DEF   MI   SP 
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52   Bruck         0   102 +SPY    0 1.000 0.6    0   12 
45   Hainburg     74    29 +MIS   12 1.000 1.6    7    3 
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Why do you have 102 wok on spy?

Plus those 74 pop will come in nicely next turn.

Validon · Post by **Validon** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 12:06 pm

Good show Vets. Proving for the second turn why you are the Vets and we are the newbies.

However we will learn and fight on getting better and more crafty all the time. Don't get overconfident on us though.

Saladin · Post by **Saladin** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 12:38 pm

I'm just wondering why Zed didn't help Mullog to double team Egbert? Not that we're complaining...it just puzzles me.

Lol, it's quite fun to see my still large army grow to level 1.640 just from attacking and taking some provinces.

Post by **Egbert** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:22 pm

I have to admit, though --- these kids do have spunk. First Zed makes me sweat, and now Mullog. Check out this battle............

+ TARGET # 36 IS OK + You order 37 Armies with a level of 1.044
from Province # 39 to attack the Target.
You face 12 Armies with a level of 1.012
Your enemy is Player Mullog
The Defenses of the Province are 0.7 Points

PATT ..... PDEF .... AT . DF ..... RES [ FIGHT FOR PROVINCE # 36 ]
---------------------------------------------------------------------
9.188 .. 11.111 ... 6 .. 1 ..... + ATTACKER WINS
9.188 .. 11.111 ... 0 .. 8 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 11.111 ... 5 .. 8 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 11.111 ... 0 .. 2 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 11.111 ... 0 .. 9 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 11.111 ... 0 .. 9 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 11.111 ... 1 .. 10 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 11.111 ... 1 .. 8 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 11.111 ... 6 .. 7 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
+ The Defenses were damaged by 0.1 Points !
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 2 .. 9 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 9 .. 10 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 7 .. 2 ..... + ATTACKER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 2 .. 0 ..... + ATTACKER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 2 .. 2 ..... = IT'S A DRAW =
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 0 .. 6 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 8 .. 6 ..... + ATTACKER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 0 .. 4 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 4 .. 8 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 9 .. 5 ..... + ATTACKER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 1 .. 4 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 5 .. 7 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 0 .. 9 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 5 .. 8 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 0 .. 3 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 2 .. 0 ..... + ATTACKER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 6 .. 7 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 6 .. 9 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 0 .. 4 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 3 .. 10 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 6 .. 3 ..... + ATTACKER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 5 .. 9 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 1 .. 1 ..... = IT'S A DRAW =
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 3 .. 6 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 1 .. 3 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 9 .. 9 ..... = IT'S A DRAW =
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 8 .. 7 ..... + ATTACKER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 4 .. 3 ..... + ATTACKER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 7 .. 4 ..... + ATTACKER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 7 .. 4 ..... + ATTACKER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 2 .. 10 ..... - DEFENDER WINS
9.188 .. 10.767 ... 6 .. 3 ..... + ATTACKER WINS
....You won the Province ! 11 Armies invade it.

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Post by **Donut** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 3:19 pm

I'm just wondering why Zed didn't help Mullog to double team Egbert? Not that we're complaining...it just puzzles me.

The reason that Zed didn't help Mullog was because of inexperience with the game and sending in orders. I believe on the first turn he didn't understand the conversion factor and on the second turn it seems that he converted to Workers, instead of Armies ( a 2 instead of a 3).

Don't think we've given up yet though. At least 1 of you will perish...

Donut

Mylantis · Post by **Mylantis** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 4:48 pm

I wonder if Donut is speaking of me?.......while I'm not in the best of shape, I've been in worse. Usuallly I don't have four allies in a game to count on!

Saladin · Post by **Saladin** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 5:40 pm

Well mistakes in the turn sheet happen all the time...just ask Trewqh!

Anyway...i hope you've gotten yourself a number of armies now Zed, we need more armies to kill!

Mullog · Post by **Mullog** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:58 pm

Saladin wrote:Sorry Mullog, but it didn't take me long to convince the other players that you were our most feared opponent, being TKG and all...so you had to go first.

So I should feel honored? That would be like thanking the big guys for beating me up first!

Well, I'll get back at you all! In fifteen years or so...

Post by **gm_al** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:25 pm

Shouldnt you be working on KaoBase anyways, Mullog ?

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