Neutral EFF

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Neutral EFF

Post by Hryllantre » Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:21 pm

What is the general EFF of each neutral provinces?

How is it calculated?

Does it decrease each turn?

Anything that you can think of relating to this....

I can't for the life of me remember

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Post by Lardmaster » Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:44 pm

As I remember it's just a straight 80% that never changes.
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Post by trewqh » Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:59 pm

I'm sure it's 75% and it's constant.

And I see we missed that in the rules. :oops:

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Post by korexus » Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:33 pm

Neutrals have a fixed EFF of 75 throughout the game, although this value is GM definable.

Advanced WoK has neutrals with an EFF of 80%, hence the confusion I guess...


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Re: Neutral EFF

Post by Hannibal » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:58 pm

Hi Hryll, yes, the current Standard Rules don't seem to say it, but Neutrals start out with an EFF of 75% and it never changes. And their armies have a LEV of 1.000, which never changes, unless they beat off an attack, in which case their survivors get LEV bonuses for winning a battle.

But you did also ask:
Hryllantre wrote:What is the general EFF of each neutral provinces?

Anything that you can think of relating to this....
Well, you prob already know this (?), but it might help new players: The EFF of Neutrals doesn't change at all, but Neutrals sure do get harder to take out as the turns roll by! This is because every neutral adds two armies every turn (the Rules mention this), but also because they add .2 to the DEF of their prov every turn (the new Rules don't mention this). Such that, during Turn 1, all Neutrals have 7 armies at a PDEF of 9.000; by Turn 2, if left to themselves, they have 9 armies and their PDEF has gone up to 9.600. By Turn 3, it's 11 armies at a PDEF of 10.200, and by Turn 4 it's 13 armies and a PDEF of 10.800. Etc. Etc. And don't underestimate the difference the increasing PDEF makes: as a rule-of-thumb, the difference between PATT and PDEF makes twice the difference that you'd think, pro rata.

Of course, all these values are GM-amendable, but these are the defaults, the usual, the normal.

You did ask. I hope it helps new players.

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