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°° AMAZONAS (beta jungle) °° Things I found out

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:00 am
by gm_al
Please post here if you think you have found out how something in WOK SP's beta jungle, AMAZONAS, works. Feel free to comment if you like what you discovered, but dont expect us to make life easy for you. :P

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 8:14 pm
by Hannibal
OK, to start that ball rolling.......

Maybe very obvious to some, but shedding a bit of light for others....Just from the orders page, there seem to be 2 "currencies" in SP: "Turns" can be used to do actions, or buy such things as instinct, fertility or Skill Ponts. Then "Skill Points" can be used to buy skills, such as swimming etc., or to allow mutation, including Brain Power, which, perhaps among other things, seems to allow you to queue more orders and bank more turns.......so that you can leave it longer before having to be online again!

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 9:48 pm
by gm_al
Very good, Han.... very good indeed.

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 2:20 am
by Lowebb
Muck Fe I'm drunk, I just entere d a lot of orders there and they include "do you want to use banked order" thingy, jyst windering do these only happen when the first turn is run

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 8:43 am
by Strider
:stupid:

Twice in one day. Yikes.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:51 am
by Strider
More things I've found out (with help, esp from Donut):

--You can't eat anything bigger than your body size. I killed some size 3 plants, but it didn't help my sat lvl at all. However, I still stripped the square of some of the plants, so you can still use this as a tactic to keep food from others.

--Instinct affects the number of times you can hunt something in a turn. For example, if you have 96% instinct and hunt some plants, your species will try to catch the plants 96 times.

--You lose 1% instinct per step (4 turns). You can gain instinct and lose instinct from spy attacks.

--Your attack and defensive points go up if you're on preferred terrain. I'm sure tons of other things affect this, too.

--The two turn spy attack only works if you're in the same square as the person you're trying to spy (at least when you're just a small, legless, small brain, no arm species).

--You can't attack anyone in the beginning. I don't know if it's due to being herbivorous or to having no arms or anything else, though.

--It seems you start out on your prefered terrain. I only know that wolves like tundra, jaguars like forests and spiders like deserts (I think). I'm pretty sure you start with a size 1 plant in your square, too.

--The amount you consume is equal to the number of specimens you have divided by 2 (at least if body size =1). I'm pretty sure this consumption rate gets higher if body size increases since large plants (I've seen up to size = 3 so far) have higher nutritional value for the same amount of lower size class plants.

--It's hard to be a green penguin in the jungle. :P

That's all I got so far. Anyone figure out "adapt" yet?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:41 am
by gm_al
*applauds Strider*

Well done, well done....

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:15 am
by Lowebb
Spy seems pretty useless, so far......hoping brain power will help that

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:09 pm
by Lowebb
When you go to do something that takes a couple of turn it come up as "spy (0/2)" When you got to move it come up (0/??) which suggests moving will be easier when you increase skill and stuff

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:42 pm
by Xarfei
also you can queue several movement orders, e.g. move west twice. Since for some of those movements you won't know in which terrain you will be moving (since you haven't uncovered that part of the map), the order queue can't show the number of turn required or it would give away information about the terrain in advance.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:53 pm
by Hannibal
Also, the cost of moving seems to vary between north, south,east and west, and vary over time between them.......

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 2:47 pm
by gm_al
A hint to you Hannibal: TERRAIN.... :roll:

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:47 pm
by Egbert
Hey, I'm starting to understand this game. :) For all you WOK4 players out there, you're playing a distorted version of WOK5! :D

Terrain changing your attack and defense values (species being like WOK5's troop types).

"Saturation" is "corn supply." "Hunting" is "harvesting."

"Instinct" is "EFF."

On the WOK4 front, "Skill points" appear to be "Tech points," which allows you to "buy" arms, legs, etc.

I like the game so far, especially the "real time" aspect. For all you WOK4 players who like this game, though, you should try WOK5. :wink:

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:26 pm
by Egbert
I have an arm! [shadow=orange]I HAVE AN ARM!!![/shadow]

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:10 pm
by Saladin
Now what good is one arm? Well i can think of thing, but let's not get in to that. :roll:

So Eg how did that new arm affect your deff and patt?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:14 pm
by Egbert
My defense stayed the same, but my attack went from 0-16 to 1-18.

How do you peel a banana with 1 hand?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:19 pm
by gm_al
You just squeeze it, Eg - first soft, and then a little harder.... :lol:

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 1:19 am
by Hannibal
I didn't know there were bananas that HAD one hand......still, in this game......watch out for the one-armed blue bananas, I guess.....

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 1:55 am
by Goat Herder
Hey-Morodin turn black on me. Bl*%$y chicken!

115 You cannot hunt a species that is the same color as you are!
Performing default order: You buy 1 skill point. Your species now has 7 skill points.

114 Hunting for #27 Moridin´s Green Crocodile. PAtt from 1 to 11, PDef from 0 to 16. Hunt limit: 24 specimens.
You hunted 85 times and caught 24 specimens of size 1, increasing saturation by 24. Your saturation is now 1187. There are 106 specimens left after your attack.

Moridin, how did you change colour. Is this because your Adapt or React button was ticked (to cause you to change automatically), or did you actually submit a move to Change Color (which assumes you were online and saw my first attack on you and decided to swap to my colour).

...and whatever you did, did it cost much?

Another observation - you get to catch a lot less of another player's animals compared to when you eat the plants, so you get a lot less gain in saturation. I think I'll stick to vegetarian diet.