The Worlds of Kaomaris

Posted: **Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:16 pm**

July in the US means not only celebrating our Independence, but it is also American Beer Month. So this weekend, as your watching fireworks, enjoy a fine brew from one (or more) of the 1400 breweries, micro-breweries, brewpubs across the country.

A couple links:

http://www.realbeer.com/index.php
http://www.americanbeermonth.com/index.php

Posted: **Mon Jul 05, 2004 5:27 am**

I'm surpriced that none or the Irish or Dutch players has started making fun of this thread yet.

Microbrewery? I am having visions here. Is the connection between brewery-microbrewery anything like oven-microwaveoven?

In short, can I have a brewery of my own sitting on my kitchen table?

If so, then I am surpriced that I havent seen this on the home shopping network. Add that thingy with electrical impulses that you stick on your muscles to get fit and you have yourself a pretty good deal! Drinking home brewed beer while working out AND watching ESPN!

Hm, now I am getting a different vision. Beer that tastes like it is made with a Soda Stream and pain in all joints due to electrecution.

Posted: **Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:20 pm**

Microbrewry is a designation. It's based on yearly output in barrels and only breweries and micro's may distribute their product to bars and stores, whereas a brewpub may only sell their product at the brewpubs' location.

Yeah Duke, I'm surprised none of the peanut gallery spoke up. But to say all American made beer is like Bud (wieser, not var), is like saying all Irish are drunks
...Uh, maybe that's not a good analogy.

Hell, Guiness might be the biggest selling Stout in the world, but it's hardly even close to the best tasting.

Posted: **Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:53 pm**

Go Carlings!!

Posted: **Mon Jul 05, 2004 5:01 pm**

Undertaker wrote:Hell, Guiness might be the biggest selling Stout in the world, but it's hardly even close to the best tasting.

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying...

Posted: **Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:06 pm**

I wonder why this site keeps logging me out. Perhaps my wife is right and I really do have nothing interesting to say

Posted: **Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:23 pm**

Polymorphic wrote:
Undertaker wrote:Hell, Guiness might be the biggest selling Stout in the world, but it's hardly even close to the best tasting.
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying...

Mass marketing works!

Posted: **Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:57 pm**

Undertaker wrote:
Polymorphic wrote:
Undertaker wrote:Hell, Guiness might be the biggest selling Stout in the world, but it's hardly even close to the best tasting.
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying...
Mass marketing works!

BRILLIANT!!!!

Posted: **Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:36 am**

lol@ Lardmaster

AF, you're not a constructionworker from Hull in England are you? Carlings? Really?

I am with you on what you are saying there Undertaker both about Guiness and American beer. I do find US beer to be a tad to light for my taste most of the time. It wakes up memories however since when I was around 17-18 they had on the clubs in my hometown something called "American Hour" and you got 3 budweisers for the price of one. So we all stached up for the rest of the night and took turns guarding the table with the stach on it. Then the barpeople understood this and those evil sons of ..... opened all three for you when you bought them! Those of you that thinks bud sucks as it is should try one that has been opened two hours ago and also has turned warm. Couldnt let all that alcohol go to waste however.

Posted: **Sun Jul 25, 2004 12:51 pm**

Duke wrote:I do find US beer to be a tad to light for my taste most of the time.

Well, I've heard it said that American Beer is like making love in a canoe...

(I'll leave this a while to see if anyone else can remember the punchline

)

korexus.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2004 7:54 pm**

Ah Korexus, that takes me back that one lol.

Posted: **Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:33 pm**

To be fair tho guest, coors the brand is nearly unknown in the UK, its brands like Carling and Grolsch that they have aquired which account for their market share.

Posted: **Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:11 am**

The 40 beer giants of the world for 2003

Rank Brewery Country Beer production in million hl Percentage of world beer production
1 Anheuser-Busch USA 152.0 10.3 %
2 SAB-Miller South Africa/USA 137.8 9.3 %
3 Heineken Netherlands 99.0 6.7 %
4 Interbrew Belgium 97.9 6.6 %
5 Carlsberg Denmark 88.8 6.0 %
6 AmBev Brazil 67.4 4.6 %
7 Modelo Mexico 41.9 2.8 %
8 Coors USA 38.6 2.6 %
9 Tsingtao China 32.6 2.2 %
10 Scottish&Newcastle United Kingdom 31.8 2.2 %
11 Asahi Japan 25.9 1.8 %
12 Femsa (Cuauhtemoc) Mexico 24.6 1.7 %
13 Santo Domingo (Bavaria) Columbia 23.5 1.6 %
14 Kirin Japan 23.1 1.6 %
15 Yan Ying China 22.3 1.5 %
16 Molson Canada 21.0 1.4 %
17 Baltika Russia 16.1 1.1 %
18 Schincariol Brazil 15.0 1.0 %
19 San Miguel Philippines 14.8 1.0 %
20 Diageo/Guinness United Kingdom/Ireland 13.0 0.9 %
21 Foster’s Australia 12.7 0.9 %
22 BGI/Castel France 12.6 0.9 %
23 Efes Turkey 11.8 0.8 %
24 Harbin China 11.7 0.8 %
25 Chang Thailand 11.1 0.8 %
26 Polar Venezuela 11.0 0.7 %
27 Lion Nathan New Zealand/Australia 10.6 0.7 %
28 Mahou–San Miguel Spain 10.3 0.7 %
29 Hite South Korea 10.0 0.7 %
30 Gold Star China 9.4 0.6 %
31 Chong Qing China 9.1 0.6 %
32 Zhu Jiang China 8.8 0.6 %
33 Holsten Germany 8.8 0.6 %
34 Sapporo Japan 8.5 0.6 %
35 Radeberger Germany 7.6 0.5 %
36 Brau und Brunnen Germany 7.2 0.5 %
37 Suntory Japan 6.8 0.5 %
38 Damm Spain 6.1 0.4 %
39 Ochakovo Russia 6.0 0.4 %
40 Bitburger Germany 5.8 0.4 %
1-40 Total (1-40) 1,173.0 79.3 %
World beer production 2003 1,478.5 100.0 %

Source: Joh.Barth
Publication date: 21 July, 2004

FYI, If anyone cares.

BTW, I dont' drink any A-B products.

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Posted: **Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:12 am**

The 40 beer giants of the world for 2003

Rank/ Brewery/ Country/ Beer production in million hl/ Percentage of world beer production
1 Anheuser-Busch USA 152.0 10.3 %
2 SAB-Miller South Africa/USA 137.8 9.3 %
3 Heineken Netherlands 99.0 6.7 %
4 Interbrew Belgium 97.9 6.6 %
5 Carlsberg Denmark 88.8 6.0 %
6 AmBev Brazil 67.4 4.6 %
7 Modelo Mexico 41.9 2.8 %
8 Coors USA 38.6 2.6 %
9 Tsingtao China 32.6 2.2 %
10 Scottish&Newcastle United Kingdom 31.8 2.2 %
11 Asahi Japan 25.9 1.8 %
12 Femsa (Cuauhtemoc) Mexico 24.6 1.7 %
13 Santo Domingo (Bavaria) Columbia 23.5 1.6 %
14 Kirin Japan 23.1 1.6 %
15 Yan Ying China 22.3 1.5 %
16 Molson Canada 21.0 1.4 %
17 Baltika Russia 16.1 1.1 %
18 Schincariol Brazil 15.0 1.0 %
19 San Miguel Philippines 14.8 1.0 %
20 Diageo/Guinness United Kingdom/Ireland 13.0 0.9 %
21 Foster’s Australia 12.7 0.9 %
22 BGI/Castel France 12.6 0.9 %
23 Efes Turkey 11.8 0.8 %
24 Harbin China 11.7 0.8 %
25 Chang Thailand 11.1 0.8 %
26 Polar Venezuela 11.0 0.7 %
27 Lion Nathan New Zealand/Australia 10.6 0.7 %
28 Mahou–San Miguel Spain 10.3 0.7 %
29 Hite South Korea 10.0 0.7 %
30 Gold Star China 9.4 0.6 %
31 Chong Qing China 9.1 0.6 %
32 Zhu Jiang China 8.8 0.6 %
33 Holsten Germany 8.8 0.6 %
34 Sapporo Japan 8.5 0.6 %
35 Radeberger Germany 7.6 0.5 %
36 Brau und Brunnen Germany 7.2 0.5 %
37 Suntory Japan 6.8 0.5 %
38 Damm Spain 6.1 0.4 %
39 Ochakovo Russia 6.0 0.4 %
40 Bitburger Germany 5.8 0.4 %
1-40 Total (1-40) 1,173.0 79.3 %
World beer production 2003 1,478.5 100.0 %

Source: Joh.Barth
Publication date: 21 July, 2004

FYI, If anyone cares.

BTW, I dont' drink any A-B products.

Posted: **Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:53 am**

Undertaker wrote:BTW, I dont' drink any A-B products.

I am sure the Anheuser-Busch people are concerned and are having board meetings about that.

Posted: **Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:15 am**

Undertaker wrote:BTW, I dont' drink any A-B products.

So that is why 20.7% are missing from the list?

Posted: **Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:09 am**

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Boddington's Brewery to close 
Interbrew will produce 'Cream of Manchester' elsewhere

Sept 9, 2004 - Union leaders and members of Britain's Campaign for Real Ale were quick to protest after plans were announced to close Manchester's famous Boddington's Brewery.

Interbrew, the Belgian company which owns the Boddingtons brand, announced the site will be shut down next February and 55 workers will be laid off. Steve Cahillane, chief executive of Interbrew UK and Ireland, said: "To reach this position on Boddingtons Brewery has been extremely difficult. But in a highly competitive environment, it is just not sustainable to continue brewing keg ales at Boddingtons and then transport them to our other brewery sites for packaging."


Union leaders counter that "corporate greed" is to blame for the demise of the famous beer, "The Cream of Manchester" brewed in the city for past two centuries. The beer, which became a symbol of northern pride, will now be brewed in south Wales, Preston or Glasgow.


"This is about corporate greed," said union spokesman Franny Joyce. "It is not a loss making brewery. If they pull out of Manchester the brand will die. It won't be the Cream of Manchester, it will become the 'Sour grapes of South Wales.'"


CAMRA announced it will campaign to keep the Boddingtons (Strangeways) Brewery open and is resurrecting the Boddingtons Action Group, set up in 1989 to keep the Boddingtons Brewery out of the hands of Whitbread.


"We're appalled at this decision," said Mike Benner of CAMRA. "Boddingtons Brewery is one of the best known British breweries and to close it after nearly 230 years shows little regard by Interbrew for Britain's beer heritage or the people of Manchester. Despite claims to be the 'World's Local Brewer,' Interbrew is riding roughshod over British brewing. Strangeways is the home of the 'Cream of Manchester' and for beer, there's no place like home."


Comedian Bernard Manning, a Boddingtons drinker, offered and interesting view. "It is the best beer there is. People swear by it," he said. "Still I suppose its staying in the UK, its not going to India like everything else where they only pay them two bob a week."

Posted: **Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:53 am**

UK: Beer is the most popular alcoholic drink in the UK, accounting for 48% of total spending on alcoholic drinks in 2003. The UK beer market was worth 18.85bn pounds sterling in 2003, having benefited from both a hot summer and generally favourable economic conditions, PRNewswire commented the report of Research and Markets on October 12. Despite media impressions of a binge-drinking culture, the UK's per capita consumption of beer is not unduly high, and the total volume of consumption is fairly stable over the long term. However, the trend away from standard-strength beers towards the more expensive premium lagers has continued, helping the market to grow in value. Pricing competition has intensified in the take-home channel for beer, whereas public houses (commonly known as `pubs') and nightclubs have been able to increase prices regularly. At one time, the majority of pubs were owned by brewers, but government restrictions on this 'tie' produced a situation where, by the end of 2003, none of the national brewers was a significant pub owner. Scottish & Newcastle PLC, the last brewer to sell its tied pub estate (in 2003), was the market leader by value. It is followed by three foreign owners -- Interbrew of Belgium, Coors of the US and Carlsberg of Denmark -- and these four companies account for 80% of the UK beer market between them. Concentration is increasing not only by brewer but also by brand, with giant brands such as Stella Artois (Interbrew) and Carling (Coors) gaining market share at the expense of less well-known brands. Despite globalisation trends in both directions -- the UK's Scottish & Newcastle is now a major multinational -- the smaller regional brewers remain important as guardians of traditional brewing heritage. Most young people start by drinking lager but their tastes often mature towards the dark beers such as stout (led by Guinness) and cask ales such as London Pride and Marston's Pedigree. The maturity of the market means that future changes are unlikely to be dramatic, although a new licensing regime for retailing alcohol -- due to begin in 2005 -- could influence drinking patterns significantly. On the supply side, governments are unlikely to allow further mergers to take place between the major players.

Keeping you beer informed,
Undertaker